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Lots of good information there.


On 9/8/99 1:38:18 PM, corsair wrote:
>Yes. We got some replies from
>some local dealers. They
>basically wanted $500.00 above
>what they claimed was dealer
>cost. Used the webb to find
>out real dealer cost, plus
>rebates, plus dealer rebates -
>they get at least 3% of dealer
>cost when they sell a car from
>the manuf. So we played split
>up. My wife would go in first
>with the dealer on line bid.
>Somehow they always seemed to
>have made an error in their
>math. I would follow with the
>Kelley Blue Book or other
>similar material. One dealer
>threw me out. Another tried
>the math trick. And so it
>went. Finally found one who
>said 3% over invoice plus the
>rebate. Told him he could have
>the 3% we would get the
>rebate. Deal. So as always it
>is buyer beware.

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