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Declaration of Independence Gina * Gina On 06/30/2000 10:42:00 AM, FawCawnahs wrote:

>You'd think a write-up with
>this many factual claims would
>have a cite to an author so we
>could decide check it out.
>Wonder who wrote it.
>Didn't know we had a Rose and Crown in
>New Dorp and that it was around during
>the Rev or that the Dec was read there.
>Wonder why that interesting fact hasn't
>been mentioned before. How true is the
>claim, I wonder.

G- RS in my estimation General William Howe & his bro Adm. Lord Richard Howe were on & around StatNisland soooooooooo much that there is the very strongest possibilities that Gen. William Howe did read the Declaration of Independence at the old Rose & Crown farm-house in New Dorp - I don't think it was a quiet & secret reading - I think it was read in a bold and informative way to reinforce the right & goals of the independence that were in their future.

CORRECTION Howe may have read it to his audience/officers/troops in a bold way trying to get a point across to them to reinforce Brit strength and cover his British fear of losing power in America if the Americans revolutionaries were to win their battle(s) for the rights & independence that they had declared.thanks fer da compute rs -thanks

----- damn it's still not typing the way I'm thinking LOL OH WELL...the Brits were gonna lose their ass hold in America if they didn't get their duffs in action and win the battles to hold on to British control - which in the end they did lose & Americans did win :) and that's the blessing we have today of living in America...Cherish the meaning Independence Day - The 4th of July Celebration (Thomas Jefferson was chosen to write the first draft which was presented to the congress on June 28, 1776. After various changes a vote was taken late in the afternoon of July 4th. Although the signing of the Declaration was not completed until August 1776, the 4th of July has been accepted as the official anniversary of United States independence. The first Independence Day celebration took place the following year - July 4 1777)

NOW.........there's always a chance that our beloved exploring SIpoet might mosey on down to the Rose & Crown carrying a copy of this post thread with her for "credibility of history curiosity", maybe, just maybe the good owners of the R&C will give her a little more detailed information about the reading of the Declaration of Independence that was read by Howe at the R&C. They may even give her a copy/picture - of that memorial plaque for her have/or send me to scan & post with their permission :))

Hmmmmmmmm they may even have old pictures of the original Rose & Crown farm-house hanging round under the pub mat.

What say U SIpoet?

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Joseph K. Leach, Contributing Historian

1524 - 1776

The Connecticut Society of the Sons of the American Revolution February 1776

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The Battle of Brooklyn

During the American Revolution, the owner of the manor was Captain Billop’s great-grandson, also called Christopher Billop. A Tory colonel, Billop sometimes entertained the redcoats in his home. On September 11, 1776, his house was the site of peace negotiations between British Lord Admiral Richard Howe and Benjamin Franklin, John Adams and Edward Rutledge......

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* General William Howe sure did fight some battles...
Major Battles and Skirmishes of the American Revolution: 1775-1777 including Commanders, Force Size and Casualties

*some good resourses...
"The 10 Days That Changed the World"
The Battles of Trenton and Princeton,

Precious Hour in American History
The Maryland 400 at Long Island

A Multitude of Amendments, Alterations and Additions



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